38. The Fear of Access to Public Benefits for Undocumented Immigrants with Celia Valdez from Maternal and Child Health Access (MCHA) and Immigration Attorney Nora Phillips

Celia Valdez (L) and Nora Phillips (R)

On the 38th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Celia Valdez and Nora Phillips.

Celia Valdez has been working in health outreach for over 25 years as the Outreach and Education Director with Maternal and Child Health Access (MCHA). She has worked diligently with local and state government groups ranging from community-based organizations to government agencies to improve access to free and low-cost health insurance programs. She has advocated on behalf of hundreds of clients, provided testimony on their behalf before government boards, and has made numerous health policy recommendations at state and local levels.  MCHA (MCHA) improves the health of low-income women and families through advocacy, education, training, and direct services. MCHA provides information, support, and technical assistance to health and social service organizations, assists individual women to achieve healthy pregnancies and obtain quality health care for themselves and their children, and educates policymakers and the general public to improve the health and social services systems to benefit the entire community.

Nora Phillips is the founder of the Law Office of Nora E. Phillips, APC, in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles. She has been practicing immigration law since 2007 and is graduate of the DePaul University College of Law. Nora's practice focuses on immigration remedies for survivors of violence, disabled immigrants, and individuals who have been deported from the U.S.. Prior to starting her own practice, she co-founded Al Otro Lado, a binational legal services organization, in 2011. While at AOL, she ran the Deportee Program the Healthcare-Legal Partnership while co-supervising the Case Management Program for holistic client advocacy. Prior to that, Nora co-founded Phillips & Urias, LLP, a community immigration law firm in East Los Angeles. Prior to Phillips & Urias, LLP, Nora was a Staff Attorney at the Central American Resource Center (CARECEN) in Los Angeles. Nora is fluent in Spanish, French, and English. Some of her recognitions include winning the National Lawyers Guild Los Angeles Chapter Annual Award, 2019; East Los Angeles Women’s Center Mujer de Paz Award, 2019; YWCA San Gabriel Valley Racial Justice Award, 2018; American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA), 2018; Child 10 Award and Courageous Luminaries Award presented by the National Immigration Law Center (NILC), 2018. 

Celia became passionate about public benefits while in college when she heard a presentation about prenatal healthcare access for immigrant women. She found a job opening at MCHA and has been there for 27 years since! On the other hand, Nora moved to New York in her early 20’s and started becoming involved in civil rights work involving Muslim populations after the 911 attacks. Eventually Nora landed in Chicago and went to law school and has been doing immigration work since. Celia and Nora work together as they both sit at the intersection of public benefits and immigration work. Whether its sending VAWA approved or U Visa approved cases to access public service benefits at MCHA or Celia sending over immigrant populations to seek legal services back to Nora, they both share a passion in making sure everyone is educated about the resources they can access so that no one falls through the cracks.

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“There isn’t enough education about immigration status and access to public benefits. For example, MCHA serviced a women that had dropped all her benefits recently. Her child’s benefits, health benefits, social benefits, SSI benefits, everything because she was so afraid of becoming a public charge. Now, after she wound up in the hospital, she ended up with a huge medical bill and we had to advocate to get all their benefits reinstated. This is just one example of the misinformation among immigrant populations and their right to get public benefits.”

— Celia Valdez

MCHA has training available for people that want to know the in and outs of public benefits in LA county. You can access those trainings here. They are always in need of donations. Please consider donating via this link. Follow them on Instagram and Facebook to keep up with their work!

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37. Efrén C. Olivares, Immigration Attorney and Author of My Boy Will Die of Sorrow: A Memoir of Immigration from the Front Lines

Efrén C. Olivares, Director of Strategic Litigation, Southern Poverty Law Center

On the 37th  episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Efrén C. Olivares, Director of Strategic Litigation at The Southern Poverty Law Center.  Efrén is a civil rights lawyer who has represented clients before federal courts and international human rights bodies for over a decade. His work focuses on ending immigrant detention and providing pro bono legal representation to detained immigrants at immigration detention centers in the deep South. Efrén and his team also defend workers’ rights, ensure local policing is not entangled with immigration enforcement, seek family reunification, and protect the rights of asylum seekers. In this interview, Efrén tells us about his upbringing and how that influenced the work he does today as an immigration attorney and fearless advocate for civil rights.   

Author of My Boy Will Die of Sorrow: A Memoir of Immigration from the Front Lines, which was published in 2022, Olivares recounts his own immigration journey as young teenager arriving in the U.S. His work has been featured in The New York Times, USA Today, Newsweek, CBS, The Wall Street Journal, NPR, CNN and many other outlets. Efrén's grandfather was born in the U.S. to farmworker parents who would travel in between Mexico and Texas for work which eventually lead to his family establishing roots in Texas when he moved to the U.S at the age of 13. In his book he recounts what life was like assimilating into the U.S. and how his own experiences allowed him to see immigration work through a personal lens.

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“There was an audio during the family separation crisis, a heartbreaking audio of children crying, that was leaked and this was a turning point because that audio is so difficult to listen to. It was leaked on a Monday night and by Wednesday afternoon the President signed an executive order reporting an end to family separation policies. That audio was so powerful in turning public opinion against this policy. This audio was so powerful and much more effective than a video or a photograph because when you hear those children cry… you don’t see the color of their skin. All children cry the same. It got to people at a visceral level in a way that when you see somebody’s skin, or hear them speak a different language or the way they look, you’re able to treat them as the “other”… The power of that audio transcended race in a way that very few other things have.”

— Efrén C. Olivares

[Listen to the audio during the family separation crisis here.]

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36. Trump’s Zero Tolerance Policy and how RAICES Showed Up – Faisal Al-Juburi, Chief External Affairs Officer for RAICES

Faisal Al-Juburi, Chief External Affairs Officer, RAICES

On the 36th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Faisal Al-Juburi. Faisal is a strategic partnerships specialist with more than a decade of experience in the nonprofit sector. He currently serves as the Chief External Affairs Officer for RAICES, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit agency founded in 1986, and the largest immigration legal services provider in Texas.

Faisal is the son of Iraqi immigrant parents. He was born in Cincinnati and grew up in Little Rock and D.C. His parents taught him about the power of servicing others from a young age and Faisal has carried these values with him through his work in philanthropy. Throughout his work with RAICES, he has seen the non-profit grow and take on a leadership position in the immigration rights movement. Their work in 2018 during Trump’s Zero Tolerance policy, which resulted in the separation of hundreds of families, was pivotal in their growth and all of the work they continue to do today.

With legal and social services, paired alongside litigation and advocacy for systems change, RAICES is operating on the national frontlines of the fight for the rights of immigrants, refugees, and asylum seekers.

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“RAICES represented 13 families in a suit against Geogroup which is a private prison contractor. People need to know that these ICE detention centers are immigration prisons that are run by private prison contractors. Family separation is a function of U.S. Immigration policy and is not only specifically what happened under the Zero Tolerance policy of the physical tearing apart of mother from child but the intention of it - to make you give up. You’re breaking people off from their support system and from their ecosystem. It’s breaking people down and we see it in very many ways. We see it continuing now where there’s been a very troubling pattern of fathers at the border being separated from their spouses and their children, of them being taken in and charged for criminal trespassing while the rest of their family goes into the immigration system. Sometimes it can be a minimum of months until they’re reunited.”

— Faisal Al-Juburi

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35. Giving for Good: A Conversation with Eliza Brennan, Senior Program Officer, Education & Migration at International Community Foundation (ICF)

Eliza Brennan, Senior Program Officer, ICF

On the 35th episode of Immigration Today!, Angeline Chen welcomes Eliza Brennan,  Senior Program Officer for Education and Migration at International Community Foundation (ICF). ICF is the nonprofit foundation of choice for U.S. donors who are passionate about protecting the environment and improving the quality of life in Baja California, Latin America, and the Caribbean. 

Eliza has been passionate about international work from a young age as her parents always fostered a life of community work. She has been involved in community driven work for many years, from her time spent at Georgetown University, to her time spent in Nicaragua. ICF’s historical main focus prior has been environment and conservation work.  Eliza leads ICF’s nearly $3M education portfolio with the goal of expanding educational opportunities for vulnerable children in Latin America to succeed in school, careers and life. Since 2018, Eliza has steered ICF’s programmatic work related to immigrants, refugees, and deportees in the San Diego-Tijuana Border. She also oversees ICF’s growing portfolio of grants in Central America. She has 30 years of experience living and working in Latin America, and academic experiences in China and South Africa.

Around the time Eliza joined ICF, the foundation began to become involved in immigration work after a major influx of Haitians started arriving to the U.S.-Mexican border in 2016. ICF eventually launched a Border Fund which has helped provide food, shelter, basic preventative healthcare and legal services for many at the border. They are heavily involved with border work now and partner with amazing orgs such as the Immigrant Defenders Law Center, This is About Humanity and many others. With ICF’s in-depth knowledge of the issues and long-standing relationships with local nonprofit organizations and community leaders, they help donors connect with the regions and causes they care about. From one-time tax-deductible donations to ongoing grants, ICF offers a variety of international grantmaking tools and advisory services to help orgs achieve their philanthropic goals.

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“One of the most inspiring success stories was about a young woman who came from El Salvador. She was attending university in El Salvador when family members were killed and were threatened by the gangs so she was forced to leave her country with her mother. In order for her to continue university, she had to have some sort of legal status in Mexico, and so she worked with some of the local organizations to get enrolled and is now studying to be a lawyer. She became a community outreach coordinator, was living in a shelter, and then decided to continue pursuing this dream of hers. She’s now in university and she has become a staff member of an organization that previously didn’t even have a paid Executive Director. These types of stories show the whole package. The organization has succeeded. They’re hiring people who are themselves migrants and then inspiring them to pursue careers that will continue to build the resources and the ecosystem needed in the border.”

— Eliza Brennan

You can learn more about ICF via their website. If you are a donor that is interested in getting connected with ICF, you can contact Eliza here or you can make a direct donation to one of the issues you care about here. If you are interested in donating to ICF’s Border Fund please click here.

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34. Why are Migrants Being Dropped off in Buses? An Interview with ED of CHIRLA Angelica Salas

Angelica Salas, Executive Director, CHIRLA

Buses transporting asylum seekers have been arriving to Los Angeles for months. Non-profit organizations such as CHIRLA, ImmDef, CARECEN, Haitian Bridge Alliance among many others have quickly reacted and are attending to this emergency. On episode 34 of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Angelica Salas, the ED of The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA) who gives us more details on this subject.

Angelica Salas joined us on Immigration Today! in early 2021 where she spoke about her work with CHIRLA, which continues to react to the needs of migrants across our nation including the asylum seekers being dropped off to cities across America. Angelica explains that in order for us to understand this issue, we must look at the context of asylum law in general. Asylum has always been a legal right to pursue but it has been facing attacks since the Trump administration in 2016. Policies such as Title 42 and Remain in Mexico have made it extremely difficult for asylum seekers to practice their right to seek asylum in the U.S. After Biden was elected, not much changed and asylum seekers remained unable to present their case in front of a judge.

Now that Title 42 has been lifted, there is an opportunity for people to seek asylum but a reasonable and humane process has not been created to help with the process.  States like Texas and Florida have been busing migrants to Los Angeles and other areas.  CHIRLA and other organizations have partnered with the city of Los Angeles and picked up the task of receiving these migrants with the level of humanity that they need. They provide basic care such as food, shelter, medical exams, clothes, transportation, legal representation and much more.

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“Immigrants are coming because they had been denied the opportunity to come forward and seek asylum. That context is really important as we talk about the buses…the busing of individuals to democratically led cities around the country is now happening as numbers of people are actually able to apply for asylum. So, states like Texas and other republican led states have been vilifying individuals who are coming to our ports of entry and vilifying anybody who’s seeking to assist them. And, worse than that, they are using individuals to score political points, to try to tell a political narrative of chaos at the border and try to create an optics that is politically motivated which basically disregards people’s lives. And most importantly, trying to show that the border was in crisis, as opposed to demonstrating that our policies were wrong.”

— Angelica Salas

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33. Discussing Professor Hing’s Book, Humanizing Immigration: How to Transform Our Racist and Unjust System

Bill Ong Hing, Professor, University of San Francisco

On the 33rd episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Professor Bill Ong Hing. Bill Ong Hing is Professor of Law and Migration Studies at the University of San Francisco, and Professor of Law and Asian American Studies Emeritus, at UC Davis. Previously on the law faculties at Stanford University and Golden Gate University, he founded the Immigrant Legal Resource Center in San Francisco and directs their Immigration & Deportation Defense Clinic. Professor Hing teaches Immigration Law & Policy, Migration Studies, Rebellious Lawyering, and Evidence. He is the author of 6 books and was co-counsel in the US Supreme Court asylum precedent-setting case INS v. Cardoza-Fonseca (1987). Throughout his career, Professor Bill Ong Hing pursued social justice through a combination of community work, litigation, and scholarship. Most recently, he has published his book Humanizing Immigration which argues that immigrant and refugee rights are part of the fight for racial justice and offers a humanitarian approach to reform and abolition.

Professor Hing was passionate about teaching from the moment he stepped foot into law school. He spent his first five years as an attorney representing Spanish speaking and Chinese clients in their deportation needs and visa work. He would also offer evening teaching classes at University of San Francisco and eventually began teaching full time at different campuses. In all if his teaching positions, he remains heavily involved with legal clinic work. Professor Bill Hing has over 50 years of experience in the immigration world and is a strong believer that the conversation around immigration needs to be revisited through a more humanitarian lens. In his most recent book, he offers criticism about the immigration court system and the judges that make decisions in cases, cites to examples of racial injustices in immigration law and ultimately advocates for major reform to the broken immigration system in this country.

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“One of the experiences that I write about in the book is interviewing several dozen children that were detained and separated from their families at a border patrol station in Texas right before the pandemic. This was during the Trump administration. It still haunts me. I think about them all the time because many were sick, many had the flu, and they were lonely. They were sad, they were traumatized, and they were malnourished… the youngest person that we interviewed was 2 years old. And this kind of separation continues even during the Biden administration.”

— Bill Ong Hing

Humanizing Immigration was just released on October 24th! You can purchase a copy on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Target, Walmart and many other outlets.  You can connect with Professor Bill Hing via the University of San Francisco website here.

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32. Immigration is a Black Issue! – Patrice Lawrence from UndocuBlack Network

Patrice Lawrence, Executive Director, UndocuBlack Network

On the 32nd episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Patrice Lawrence from the UndocuBlack Network.  Black immigrants are often prone to higher rates of detention and deportation, have less access to legal representation, and are likely to be forgotten in the narrative of immigration in general. When entire communities are invisible in these narratives, they are also left out of conversations surrounding the protection and advocacy of their human rights. Listen as Patrice shares her immigration journey into the U.S., how she survived without status, and the work that UndocuBlack Network is doing to ensure that black immigration issues become an important part of the larger immigration narrative.

Patrice Lawrence (she/her) is the Executive Director of the UndocuBlack Network (UBN) and a member of the community it serves - currently and formerly undocumented Black immigrants who are transforming their realities and making their demands known on a local, state, and national level. Originally from Jamaica, Patrice is a graduate of Hollins University. In 2023, she was named by the Washingtonian as one of the top 500 influencers in Washington, D.C. Over the past seven years since the co-creation of UndocuBlack Network, Lawrence’s expertise in legislative matters has been instrumental in securing the largest form of legislative relief in over two decades when she worked with members of Congress on both sides of the aisle to secure immigration relief for Liberians in 2019. Patrice is a fierce advocate for the liberation of all peoples and towards that vision has been a leader in building unity across racial and ethnic communities. Patrice has penned op-eds for CNN, Black Star News, and NewsOne.

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“We have got to be really radical and make some changes so that all black people have the right to migration no matter who they are, where they’re coming from, how much money they have, or which border of the United States they enter. Whether they enter by sea or water…and that folks who are really vulnerable, like folks who need to seek asylum, which is an international human right, are able to do so, no matter their way of entry to the United States.”

— Patrice Lawrence

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31. Serving and Empowering Domestic Violence Survivors in LA – A Conversation with Carmen McDonald, ED from Los Angeles Center for Law and Justice (LACLJ)

On the 31st episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Carmen McDonald. Carmen McDonald is the new Executive Director for Los Angeles Center for Law and Justice (LACLJ) as of March 2023. LACLJ was founded in 1973 and has provided legal advocacy to low-income and primarily immigrant and Latino populations in Los Angeles for over 40 years. Their goal is to secure justice for survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault and empower them to create their own futures. Carmen was previously the Director of legal services at LACLJ. In her role, she oversaw LACLJ’s domestic violence, sexual assault, and human trafficking projects and LACLJ’s pro bono program, which pairs attorneys with survivors of domestic violence seeking representation at their restraining order hearings. Driven by her passion to help others, she has led representation for hundreds of domestic violence survivors in family court and immigration proceedings and overseen precedent-setting appeals.

Prior to working at LACLJ, Carmen was an attorney at Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles County where she represented survivors of domestic violence in family law and immigration matters and worked in the Shriver Access to Justice Project assisting tenants with unlawful detainer proceedings. Carmen also previously worked at Break the Cycle where she represented teen survivors of domestic violence in family law matters. Prior to becoming an attorney, Carmen interned at the YWCA of San Diego County assisting survivors of domestic violence in family law matters and at the Gay and Lesbian Center of San Diego County assisting clients living with HIV/AIDS with accessing benefits.

Carmen is the daughter of Cuban immigrants. Carmen received her bachelor’s degree in Political Science from the University of Central Florida with a minor in Women’s Studies before graduating from California Western School of Law. Carmen was awarded the 2020 Los Angeles Domestic Violence Council Betty Fisher award for her service to survivors of domestic violence.

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“I was always interested in fighting for people’s rights, but the domestic violence piece came later when I saw that women were afraid that if they called the police their abuser would lose their job, and how they would feed their kids? They were afraid that if they called the police, they wouldn’t have a place to live. And so, the whole part about women’s issues and domestic violence all came full circle.”

— Carmen McDonald

If you want to apply for services with LACLJ use this link. If you need crisis support, immediate assistance, or shelter 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week, please reach out to:

• the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)

• the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673)

• the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888 or by texting 233733

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30. How a Daughter of an Immigrant Family became a Lawyer at the Largest Video Streaming Service in the World - A Conversation with Keya Koul, Business & Legal Affairs Counsel at Netflix

Keya Koul, Business & Legal Affairs Counsel, Netflix

On the 30th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Keya Koul. Keya Koul is Business & Legal Affairs Counsel at Netflix. She serves as one of the co-leads of the Pro Bono Committee in the LA office and has been with Netflix for nearly four years. Keya currently holds an American Bar Association (ABA) Presidential Appointment to the Commission on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI). Prior to working at Netflix, Keya served as the Director of Career Services at University of San Francisco School of Law. Before that, Keya practiced law in New Mexico for nearly a decade, during which time she was named a Super Lawyers Rising Star. She received her J.D. from Southwestern Law School and obtained her masters from UCLA. She is the eldest daughter of immigrants from Srinagar, Kashmir, India. She speaks English, Spanish, Hindi, Kashmiri, and a little bit of French and Arabic. Keya is passionate about diversity, inclusion, and equity, and believes strongly in giving back through public service and pro bono work.

On this podcast, she talks to us about what her journey growing up as the daughter of Indian immigrant parents was like, her journey in her career and her transition into an in-house attorney at Netflix and what living in LA has been like for her. Keya also talks to us about her battle with cancer in 2014 and how that changed the trajectory of her life. In many ways, her decision to join Netflix as an in-house attorney is tied to her desire to live life in the moment. With her background in entertainment law, her love for social justice, and learning new languages, she found the perfect career for her.

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“I pinch myself daily. Honestly, [working at Netflix] is a dream job for me. I often tell law students that there’s pressure in law school to have to pick civil or criminal, transactional or litigation.. etc. But life is not linear, life is a roller coaster. So, you must be able to move with that. Because of my life trajectory, I learned to be super adaptable and be open to opportunities. And then, at the end of the day, taking that leap of faith will allow you to be where you want in life.”

— Keya Koul

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29. An Interview with Creators of Documentary Film “Seeking Asylum” – Rae Ceretto and Kelly Scott from Honeypot Productions

On the 29th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Rae Ceretto and Kelly Scott. They are the co-founders of Honeypot Productions and creators of the film Seeking Asylum. Rae Ceretto is a director and cinematographer, and Kelly Scott is a producer. Honeypot Productions was founded in 2020 and is a female owned and operated production company specializing in documentary and nonfiction storytelling. They foster conversations of understanding, compassion, and growth in our world through visually stunning and character driven narratives.

Rae started her career as a photojournalist documenting refugees and women’s rights issues around the globe. At the age of 16, Rae completed her first documentary short film about the 1999 NATO bombings and death of former Yugoslavian dictator Slobodan Milosevic. She graduated with honors from New York University and went on to collaborate with some of the biggest companies in the nonprofit, commercial, and entertainment world. In 2021 Rae was named one of SHOOT Magazine’s emerging directors.

Kelly is an award-winning producer with a background in Fine Art.  After attending The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art in New York, she began her production career working in advertising, fashion, and music. Her productions have won a Cannes Silver Lion, a Clio, Ad Age Campaign of the Year, and multiple Experiential Awards from Adweek.

Their film Seeking Asylum is a feature documentary that documents the challenges asylum seekers face and shows why asylum is an integral part of the American Dream. This film is an expansion of their award-winning short documentary, We Do Not Live Here, which was featured in Rolling Stone Magazine. It follows Kensy’s arduous journey from Honduras to Los Angeles where she is currently waiting for her asylum trial and all the issues she faces after entering the United States along with her children.

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“One thing that we really want the audience to see after watching our film is that this is a humanitarian issue. Obviously, there are politics involved. But the number of politics that are involved in immigration and asylum is unfortunate, because it’s a pendulum that swings left, it’s a pendulum that swings right and the people that are getting hurt are the people that are trying to come to the U.S. and find safety.”

— Rae Ceretto

You can watch Seeking Asylum on Amazon, Apple, Google Play or other streaming sites. Please consider donating to Kensy’s GoFundMe page to help alleviate some of the financial burdens that her and her family face. Provide money for legal support to asylum seekers via these resources or volunteer here. You can follow Honeypot Productions on their Instagram to keep up with their latest work. 

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28. Anyone can be a Victim of Human Trafficking – An Interview with Erika Gonzalez from The Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking (CAST)

On the 28th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Erika Gonzalez. Erika Gonzalez is a Training and Technical Assistance Managing Attorney at the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking (CAST), in Los Angeles CA.  Erika is a national expert in legal remedies access for survivors of all forms of human trafficking. She is proud to be the daughter of Mexican and Salvadoran immigrants whose work focuses on approaching the legal representation of trafficking survivors from a trauma-informed, victim-centered, and race equity lens. 

Erika co-founded and continues to lead the Office for Victims of Crime’s first training and technical assistance program dedicated to legal remedies for trafficking survivors at CAST. Through this program, she trains attorneys and social service providers across the U.S. on issues of immigration, victims’ rights, criminal record relief and ethical considerations. Erika has devoted her career to working with survivors of human trafficking, sexual assault, and domestic violence. At Opening Doors, Inc. in Sacramento, CA, Erika assumed the low-bono immigration program focused on assisting victims of crime with immigration relief. As a staff attorney at CAST and Opening Doors, she represented crime victims in immigration, criminal victims’ rights, and criminal record relief matters.

Erika is the co-author of several advisories on T visas and other forms of relief. She is a member of the Freedom Network, a network of over 60 individual and member agencies representing trafficking survivors and is an active participant of their Steering and Racial Equity Committees. She graduated from the University of Pacific, McGeorge School of Law and the University of California, Berkeley. Erika is currently a fellow for the New Leaders Council, Class of 2021. She was raised in South Lake Tahoe.

CAST is one of the pioneers of the US anti-trafficking movement. CAST’s immeasurable contribution to survivors of human trafficking has been recognized by President Obama, who honored CAST with the Presidential Award for Extraordinary Efforts to Combat Trafficking in Persons in 2014. Erika has been doing anti-trafficking work since 2011 and has specifically been with CAST since 2014. She began as a Staff Attorney and eventually transitioned to the Technical Assistance role. 

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“Anybody could be a victim of trafficking. All people of all ages, race, genders, identities, and education backgrounds. What generally makes someone more vulnerable to traffic, though, are people who are already disproportionately more vulnerable by society. For example, people who tend to be marginalized by structural racism, by homophobia, transphobia people with disabilities, people with unstable immigration status, people who are poor, and who have a history of abuse. All of those things tend to impact the vulnerabilities and make someone generally more vulnerable to trafficking as a whole.”

— Erika Gonzalez

You can learn about CAST by visiting their website online. Here is a link to the Training and Technical Assistance Program to learn about the free support to attorneys and social service providers assisting trafficking survivors. For our attorney and legal providers that listen, here is a link for trauma-informed lawyering resources. You can make a donation to CAST and follow them on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn.

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Deporting Veterans – Fact or Fiction? – An Interview with Amanda Schuft from Immigrant Defenders Law Center

On the 27th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Amanda Schuft. Amanda Schuft is the Legal Services Director of Community Defense Programs at Immigrant Defenders Law Center. Immigrant Defenders Law Center is Southern California's largest deportation defense non-profit. They provide full‐scale deportation defense, legal representation, legal education, and connections to social services. Amanda has been a part of the Immigrant Defenders Law Center team for almost 8 years while serving various roles. Her focus is in representing adults who have been detained by ICE and who have been found incompetent to represent themselves through their National Qualified Representative Program. She is also the Directing Attorney for ImmDef's Deported Veteran Program where she helps veterans who have been deported with legal resources and post-conviction relief in an effort to eventually get legal status in the U.S. Prior to this, she was a staff attorney at Esperanza Immigrant Rights Project. She attended the University of Oregon School of Law. 

Amanda explains how she always knew she wanted a career that was of service to people. Her mother was a teacher and would help vulnerable students better access the education system. Amanda became a bilingual teacher in Honduras for a year and eventually realized education was not for her. She pursued law school instead and eventually understood that there was a real need in the immigrant community to better access the legal system. Now she dedicates herself to representing individuals that are not competent to represent themselves in immigration court and has made huge strides in helping deported veterans come back home.

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“Public focus on [deporting veterans] can really change the landscape of services available. Right now, there is more focus on this, so hopefully, it will just expand access to services and encourage people to reach out to their Congress people and support bills that will help repatriate veterans who are still in removal proceedings.”

— Amanda Schuft

You can learn more about the Deported Veterans Program on ImmDef’s website here. For client referral’s you can email deportedvets@immdef.org.

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How One Person Started a Movement to Heal Skid Row - An Interview with Andy Bales, CEO of Union Rescue Mission

On the 26th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen interviews Rev. Andrew (Andy) J. Bales, the CEO of Union Rescue Mission. Union Rescue Mission (URM) is one of the largest missions of its kind — bringing help and hope to men, women, and children experiencing homelessness in Downtown Los Angeles. URM is an organization that was founded in 1891 which dedicates itself to helping men, women, and children escape the streets of Skid Row through food, shelter, education, counseling, and long-term recovery program. During their early days, URM took to the streets in gospel wagons to offer food, clothing, and salvation to the less fortunate. Over the years, URM has continued and expanded its efforts to feed both the body and the soul, helping individuals and families break the cycle of poverty and achieve self-sufficiency.

On this episode of Immigration Today!, Andy talks to us about his upbringing and how he came into the field of service naturally. His father experienced homelessness and alcoholism. That, coupled with his eventual passion for teaching and his faith brought him to lean a hand in and help those in need. Andy Bales has over 35 years of experience in community outreach and service to the homeless community. While at URM, he has assisted in the development of transitional housing and permanent supportive housing for the community of LA. Andy has had a pivotal role in reshaping hospital and governmental policies related to the “dumping” of homeless patients on to the streets of Skid Row. Andy’s present focus is organizing and working with community partners to address the epidemic of homelessness in Los Angeles.

 Andy discusses the diverse demographic that exists in the streets of LA, including the growing Latinx and undocumented population. He also describes the work being done by LA Mayor Karen Bass and the strong support she has given to not only get people off the streets, but to treat the long history of mental illness that haunts our fellow Angelenos.  

Andy was named as the 930th Point of Light by President George Bush in 1992, receiving the 1999 Des Moines NAACP Community Service Award, and receiving the 2004 Martin Luther King, Jr. Award from the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance of Pasadena. He was declared a Treasure of LA by the Central City Association in 2017. He has been featured in CBS’s 60 Minutes, NBC’s Dateline, CNN and Social Media, and is a frequent guest speaker at conferences, schools, and clubs. The list goes on.

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“I think our area of the most success this year so far has been finding people jobs and people keeping their jobs. They need some light at the end of the tunnel that isn’t a train coming their way, before they’ll give life another try. I’ve made a career of going out on the streets and encouraging people to give life another try and I’ve rarely been rejected. Sometimes it’s taken 32 weeks in a row before somebody makes the decision to come in and get help, but they do.”

— Andy Bales

You can support Union Rescue Mission by making a donating here. You can also register to be a volunteer here. If you or someone you know is experiencing homelessness, URM can help. To learn more about their emergency and recovery services, please call them at (213) 347-6300. Follow Union Rescue Mission on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube!

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The Intersection between Reproductive Justice and Immigrant Rights – A Conversation with Juliana Serrano, Vice President of Advocacy & Equity at Planned Parenthood Pasadena and San Gabriel Valley

On the 25th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Juliana Serrano from Planned Parenthood. Juliana Serrano is the Vice President of Advocacy & Equity at Planned Parenthood Pasadena and San Gabriel Valley (PPPSGV). In this role, Juliana works to advance their mission through the strategic implementation of electoral and advocacy activities that promote policies favorable to Planned Parenthood at all levels of government. She creates and leads the vision and strategy for community affairs, government affairs, and advocacy work, and she also leads the organization’s diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, focused on partnerships for health equity in our communities.

Before this, Juliana was the Senior Associate for Peace & Justice and the Office for Creative Connections at All Saints Church for more than eleven years. She was honored to work on efforts such as police reform; the fight for $15; immigrant rights; homelessness; affordable housing; health care access; reintegration; environmental justice; voting rights and more. To this day, she still serves on The City of Pasadena’s first Community Police Oversight Commission as well as many other positions that have allowed her to advocate for change in Pasadena and greater Los Angeles. Juliana is the daughter of Colombian immigrant parents. Juliana received her B.A. in Psychology, with minors in Sociology and Philosophy, from Loyola Marymount University (LMU/LA). 

In this episode Juliana tells us about her spirituality and life in college and how that ignited her love for social change. She has been an advocate for many communities all throughout her years and eventually landed in Planned Parenthood doing work in reproductive justice. Juliana describes the work she does at PPPSGV and the intersection between immigrant rights and reproductive justice. She also goes into detail about the recent Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade and what Planned Parenthood is doing to fight this. She expresses the way in which these threats to healthcare access affect immigrant and marginalized communities at a higher rate.

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“Planned Parenthood has been actively working on partnering with immigrant rights organizations to advance policies at the State and Federal level to ensure that immigrants are protected. We want to make sure that the immigrant community, just like other communities, aren’t further marginalized and oppressed by these horrific policies that seem to be enacted across the nation when it comes to making decisions about one’s own health care.”

— Juliana Serrano

You can keep up with the work Planned Parenthood does via their Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. You can find Juliana Serrano directly on LinkedIn. Signup to be a volunteer with PPPSGV via their website. Please consider donating as well!

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Majoring in Grit – The Real Challenge for an Undocumented Student isn’t the Classwork – An interview with Attorney Jessica Viramontes from CARECEN

On the 24th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Jessica Viramontes. Jessica is a proud daughter of Mexican immigrant parents. She taught Ethnic Studies & Global Leadership for 12 years before becoming an Immigration attorney. She's traveled to several countries all over the world meeting with different community groups around the issues of food justice, land rights, migration/refugees, climate justice, mass incarceration, and resistance. She has organized with immigrant communities and helped create a cooperative of day laborers that would remove lawns to restore native plants and promote growing food in LA. She received her Bachelor of Arts in Chicana/o Studies and Humanities, from Loyola Marymount University, and her Master of Arts degree in Ethnic Studies from San Francisco State University. She has her juris doctor from Peoples College of Law.  Jessica is a Staff Attorney with CARECEN's College Legal Services Project providing free legal services to community college students, staff and faculty. She is an urban farmer, a soccer player and plays traditional son jarocho music.  

Jessica has always been interested in traveling which exposed her to a variety of social movements and immigrant struggles. She taught Chicano studies for 12 years and eventually became an attorney with CARECEN. CARECEN (Central American Resource Center Los Angeles) is the largest Central American immigrant rights organization in the country, that empowers Central Americans and all immigrants by defending human and civil rights, working for social and economic justice, and promoting cultural diversity. Jessica specifically assists low income undocumented students (a lot of them DACA recipients) navigate their journey through higher education by offering free legal services. 

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“I love when I’m able to hear stories and connect people to a resource. It’s such an incredible opportunity to be able to help someone see their father for the first time in 20 years for example. Its life changing and transformative for that person.”

— Jessica Viramontes

You can learn more about CARECEN and the services they offer via their website. If you are a student that wants to connect with their College Legal Services Project you can book an appointment here or find other higher education legal services here.  Follow CARECEN on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram!

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The Truth About The U.S. Border Patrol: Jenn Budd, Former Border Patrol Agent Turned Activist and Author of “Against The Wall”

On the 23rd episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Jenn Budd. Jenn Budd is a former Border Patrol agent turned immigrant-rights activist. Jenn was a former Senior Patrol agent and Intelligence agent with the U.S. Border Patrol but after many years of witnessing the cruelty and abuse of the agency towards migrants, she decided to denounce her position and speak out against the agency. Jenn is also the author of her memoir Against the Wall – My Journey from Border Patrol Agent to Immigrant Right Activist. She wrote this book in hopes that it would help change the brutal and inhumane immigration system. Her journey is not just a look at the inside of the US Border Patrol, but a look into what enforcing such inhumane policies does to both agents and migrants.  She discusses issues of racism, mental health, being LGBTQ, being an ally, working in an abusive environment and how to survive. Jenn Budd has been featured in The New York Times, The Guardian, Vice, CBS and many other outlets which have helped share her unique story.

In this episode, Jenn tells us about her upbringing in Northern Alabama and how she joined the U.S. border patrol as a sort of escape from her abusive household. She goes into detail on the type of work she did detaining migrants crossing the border and the reality of what happens there. Jenn also recounts very personal stories of her experience with hazing, harassment and sexual assault, as well as the mental health issues she later had to cope with. You can read more about this in Jenn Budd’s memoir Against the Wall – My Journey from Border Patrol Agent to Immigrant Right Activist.

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“I was experiencing a lot of mental health issues, a lot of anger. I was having a lot of problems because of all of the death I was encountering and seeing because of the policies that I was enforcing at the U.S. border patrol.”

— Jenn Budd

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How An Undocumented Immigrant Became A U.S. Permanent Resident And Is Using His Story To Make Change–A Conversation With Digital Strategist Juan Escalante

On the 22nd episode of Immigration Today! Angeline interviews Juan Escalante. Juan Escalante is a formerly undocumented nationally renowned digital strategist and widely recognized immigration advocate. Juan’s immigration story began when his parents fled Venezuela in the year 2000, with Juan and his two brothers, following the election of Hugo Chavez. In 2006, an immigration attorney mishandled the Escalante’s case, which led them to lose their immigration status despite “waiting in line” while paying taxes and immigration fees. By the time President Obama announced the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in 2012, Juan had graduated from Florida State University with a political science degree and had helped spearhead some of the digital tactics used in immigration-related campaigns across the country. Juan returned to FSU and obtained a master’s degree in public administration in 2015. He has remained a fierce and relentless advocate for immigrant rights and leads state and national efforts to pass sensible immigration legislation. Juan resides in Los Angeles and his work has been highlighted in a wide range of publications, including The New York Times, USA Today, Univision, CNN and Netflix. 

In this podcast, Juan details out his immigration story and how this affected his decision to become an advocate today. Unlike many undocumented immigrants, Juan entered the U.S. legally with a visa and had hopes of becoming a citizen at a young age. After being a victim of fraud from predatory attorneys, he and his family had to navigate the reality of being undocumented. Juan has now gained lawful permanent residency but continues to use his voice to keep DACA and fight for a more permanent solution for Dreamers and others who are undocumented.  He uses the power of the internet to tell his story and shape immigration narratives online in an effort to positively affect the view of undocumented people in this nation.

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“If you are undocumented today, you may feel powerless, and you may feel limited by a variety of different scenarios. But the truth of the matter is, we have a lot more resources and helping hands than before. So, I encourage people to reach out, to get educated and experience life as they’re feeling it. Not to become so overwhelmed or jaded that you are not able to build your own piece of the journey.””

— Juan Escalante

You can follow Juan on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and Linked in. Visit his website here!

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Breaking Anti-immigration Narratives on YouTube – An Interview with Shauna Siggelkow from Define American

On the 21st episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Shauna Siggelkow. Shauna Siggelkow is an experienced digital content producer and strategist, whose work focuses on the intersection of digital media and social justice. She is the Director of Digital Storytelling at Define American where she develops original research-based content strategies to combat xenophobia online. She is a film producer working in media production, research and advocacy, a former producer for MTV’s Emmy-Nominated White People; and formerly on Video & Development at the LA Times. 

Define American is a culture change organization that uses the power of narrative to humanize conversations about immigrants. Shauna is the co-author of a new report from Define American which examines the impact of anti-immigration YouTube videos have on the American public. 

In this podcast, Shauna goes into depth about how YouTube has the power to affect the American public opinion and action around immigration. Specifically, the report analyzes anti-immigration content, The Great Replacement theory, the way this content is packaged and how it affects real-life decisions of its viewers. The reason this report focuses on the “anti” side is because there is an understanding that in order to refute anti-immigrant arguments it is necessary to understand them as well. Shauna also goes into the “toolkit” that Define American has developed which provides resources for people to combat these narratives. 

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If you are interested in reading this report you can download a copy at  Define America’s website. You can also access their online toolkit here.

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The Real Economics of Immigration - An Interview with Professor and Author Tara Watson

On the 20th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Dr. Tara Watson. Tara Watson is an economist who focuses on U.S. social policy, with interests in the safety net, health, and immigration. She is a Professor of Economics at Williams College since 2004, a Research Associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), and a Co-Editor of the Journal of Human Resources. In 2015-2016, Watson served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Microeconomic Analysis in the U.S. Treasury Department’s Office of Economic Policy. She was previously a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in Health Policy Research at the University of Michigan, a visiting scholar at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, and a Research Associate at the Princeton Center for Research on Child Wellbeing. Dr. Watson earned her Ph.D. in Economics from Harvard University in 2003. Her 2021 book, “The Border Within: The Economics of Immigration in an Age of Fear,” (University of Chicago, 2022) co-authored by journalist Kalee Thompson, provides a compelling analysis of the costs and impacts of immigration and immigration policy on every aspect of American life, from the labor force to social welfare programs to tax revenue. 

In this interview, Dr. Watson discusses her background as a professor, and explains her passion for researching and writing about immigration. She was approached by the University of Chicago Press in 2014 and was asked if she would be willing to write a book, so she embarked in a years-long journey to do so. One of the most important goals here is to bring more statistical and evidence driven information to the narratives of migration. Tara realized that when an audience learns about immigration its entirely focused on the humanitarian and ethical point of view which can be easy to dismiss. When economists write about immigration, they often just focus on statistics which aren’t very compelling, so marrying the humanitarian and statistical point of view seemed ideal. Economist Tara Watson and Journalist Kalee Thompson pair rigorous analysis with deeply personal stories from immigrants and their families to assess immigration’s effects on every aspect of American life. In this episode, Tara gives us a brief insight into her book as she discusses stereotypes about “immigrants taking American jobs” and “being criminals” and what the data really says about this. 

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“As I was writing my book, there are two things I really took away. First, the level of unpredictability and chaos in the immigration system and how vicious it was. People, who on paper, would look like they’ve had very similar situations and had made very similar decisions, just end up in completely different circumstances because of their immigration status and the draconian policies that rule it. Second, the degree to which fear and anxiety around these issues dominate the policies that we have on the books.”

— Dr. Tara Watson

You can buy this book on Amazon and the University of Chicago website. You can also follow Dr. Watson on her Twitter account and LinkedIn to stay up to date with her findings. 

The Different Treatment of Asylum Seekers at the U.S. Mexican Border – A Talk with Ginger Cline from Al Otro Lado

On the 19th episode of Immigration Today! Angeline Chen welcomes Ginger Cline. Ginger is a Staff Attorney Justice Fellow for Al Otro Lado's Tijuana office. Al Otro Lado is a bi-national advocacy and legal aid organization serving migrants, refugees and deportees in the United States and Mexico. Ginger’s focus is on supporting African and Haitian asylum seekers by advocating for their release from detention and assisting with their asylum applications. In addition, she advises individuals fighting their asylum cases from Tijuana under the Remain in Mexico program. Prior to joining Al Otro Lado, she represented Central American asylum seekers through the Harvard Immigration and Refugee Clinic, served as Co-President of the Harvard Immigration Project, and interned for a semester at the Boston Immigration Court. During her law school summers, Ginger interned at RAICES Texas, where she represented asylum seeking women detained at the Karnes Detention Center, and at HIAS Kenya where she submitted resettlement applications on behalf of refugees in Nairobi. 

In this episode Ginger goes into detail about her background, her educational journey and how she landed in Tijuana advocating for immigrant rights. Her passion for immigrant rights began as an undergraduate student at the University of Michigan where she would volunteer at Freedom House, which is a temporary home for asylum seekers in Detroit. She quickly learned how difficult it was for people to navigate the asylum system in the U.S. She eventually obtained her M.A. in International Relations from the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid, an M.Sc. in Refugee and Forced Migration Studies from the University of Oxford and a J.D. from Harvard Law School.

Ginger also goes into detail about how the Ukrainian war has affected her work at the U.S. Mexican border, the differences she has noticed in the treatment of Black asylum seekers, and we also learn about Tittle 42 – a policy implemented using COVID-19 as an excuse to close the border only for asylum seekers. Ginger explains how this has affected her work with Al Otro Lado and what she predicts will happen now that Tittle 42 was set to be lifted on May 23rd. 

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“Our asylum system makes it really difficult for people to access it. It’s really hard to navigate and when I hear the stories of what people have gone through in their home countries and the way that they are treated once they arrive, such as having to go through detention and the credible fear process, I wanted to advocate for these people who have just been through so much.”

— Ginger Cline

Al Otro Lado is vigorously working at the border to advocate for the rights of asylum seekers and they rely on the volunteer work and donations of listeners like you. Please consider giving a donation on their website here or sign up to volunteer here. Give them a follow on Facebook, Instagram and Linked In. 

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